All these countries have learned a lesson that too liberal immigration policy has put their own country at risk.They should have discriminated against certain immigrants which will eventually bring disasters politically , economically and religiously.They are now finding it hard to reverse without being accused of racism, but it is not too late because the number is still manageable.
Singapore's situation is equivalent to the final stage cancer. It has spread so far and wide there is no way to control the growth anymore. Any therapy of Chemo or Radio would hurt the locals and foreigners alike. The Pro Alien Party did it to grow GDP that links to their bonus and they didn't care if the growth is cancerous or not! As far as they are concerned, going/growing Faster is Better, they don't seem to care if we are going the wrong direction!
Its a matter of sustainability. Singapore is also suffering from resource shortage. Shortage of schools, MRT trains, hospital beds and HDB flats. Singapore needs a sustainable population policy.
Anyway not every small country needs a large population. Lichenstein has a land size of 160square kilometers with 35K population compared to Singapore is 710 square km with 5M population
I sometimes feel that our leaders (either in Australia or Singapore) find that population growth is the easy way to future economic growth.
I personally feel that this path just leads to overcrowding, over-stressed population and eventually has to hit limits.
The much harder solution is to get the economic growth out of the existing population... or heaven forbid, have stagnant growth... Our resources would breath a big sigh of relief.
Australia is hitting limits on it's infrastructure and although externally it looks as though there is plenty of space for people, the major cities are becoming crowded, expensive and their infrastructure is crumbling. If Australia could grow it's second tier cities, it could grow substantially.
"Bigger isn't always better," said the ACF's Chuck Berger.
"More people means more roads, more urban sprawl, more dams, more power lines, more energy and water use, more pollution in our air and natural environment, and more pressure on our animals, plants, rivers, reefs and bush." My comment: More condos. means more inflated prices too! more diggings and more floods and jams etc...............
I am very much against a high population like 5 million or more in Singapore. It place too much stress on the small environment here. Transport, food, water, everything! Today we read that PUB going to increase tremendously newWater plants. And desalination works.
All of us suffer we have to increasingly drink recycled longkang water, all because of xponential increase in population which is artificially created.
It is better to have higher quality of life than higher quantity of humans competing with each other in a small space like hours. The goverhment did a very very major mistake to increase our population artificially without giving the stakeholders (citizens) the chance to comment. Now it is too late, you cannot chase the aliens away, whether you vote or not vote for the ruling elites. very sad,
I was at Bugis MRT station last Saturday afternoon. I thought I was at a Mumbai Railway Station. I was quite shocked. This is the problem with "excessive and aggressive" immigration policy. The Government refused to admit their mistake.
France made a big mistake and is now paying for it. Legislation makes it worse. London made a horrible mistake. It is now paying for it.Soon it will be renamed.
Cannot imagine our PM is for the idea of transplanting foreigners to supplement the population decline and turning a blind of what PAP has done for the past 50 years to cause it. Now our Orchard road is also overflowing with flood water, MRT packed like sardine....etc...what kind of life we are going to face in the future.
I interviewed some FTs(cleaners)from India at my condo. and guess what?.A few of them are eager to apply PR or even in the process of applying, and I said to myself. ........Economic Migrants or the real FTs? Where have all the Singaporeans Gone?
My friends who attended courses conducted by Singapore Institute of Retail Studies arranged by Work Development Agency was surprised to learn that PR and Singaporean paid same subsidize rate of only $15. The amount for Foreigner is more than $300. My question is why are PRs given the same subsidize. Singapore probably is the only country in the world that embrace PRs so preciously. Mr Tan, hope you can post this message.
I like give examples why I support foreigners or PRs working in Singapore (give me a chance and hear me out)!
1. Foreign Engineers - More focus and more technical; rare skills as most locals very management-oriented and not hands-on. Both groups can be as hardworking and spent long hours in the workplace. When skills are rare, salary gets higher!Locals may want to explore to learn reals skills than just talk and expect high pay. Locals also know the m.c. (medical certificate) tactics when some will conveniently be on M.c. when there is stock taking or audits, etc. HRs and boss have eyes too!
2. Foreign students I mean the real students. Here to get better accreditation. These are the global brains and we need these committed groups to be interested in research and spent time. V committed. Local students too keen to make money and do the wrong work at the wrong time.
3. Foreign Help My hourly local auntie charges me $12/hour for domestic help. Ask for $5 more for transport. Total cost approx $50 for 3-4hours; (actually leave within 2 hours as we did not see her when we came home early sometimes). Iron 7 shirts, do not work weekends, do not clean windows. Domestic maid- nothing to say, we should treat them better.
Why is there no ranking on the population density per square metre in the world cities? Singapore always ranked among the top in many surveys conducted by many prestigeous organisations. We should have such a survey and see where Singapore ranks.
Since I left my job with a Temasek owned company.. I have not paid income tax.( cannot avoid GST leh ) Do free lance work and recieve cash payments. In fact claim tax relief from as many fronts as possible.. maid levies, insurance premiums,elderly care.. etc
This way, you will not feel so "grum"..
Accept it.. they are not going away... eben with a change of Gov
All these countries have learned a lesson that too liberal immigration policy has put their own country at risk.They should have discriminated against certain immigrants which will eventually bring disasters politically , economically and religiously.They are now finding it hard to reverse without being accused of racism, but it is not too late because the number is still manageable.
ReplyDeleteSingapore's situation is equivalent to the final stage cancer. It has spread so far and wide there is no way to control the growth anymore. Any therapy of Chemo or Radio would hurt the locals and foreigners alike. The Pro Alien Party did it to grow GDP that links to their bonus and they didn't care if the growth is cancerous or not! As far as they are concerned, going/growing Faster is Better, they don't seem to care if we are going the wrong direction!
ReplyDeleteIts a matter of sustainability. Singapore is also suffering from resource shortage. Shortage of schools, MRT trains, hospital beds and HDB flats.
ReplyDeleteSingapore needs a sustainable population policy.
Anyway not every small country needs a large population. Lichenstein has a land size of 160square kilometers with 35K population compared to Singapore is 710 square km with 5M population
I sometimes feel that our leaders (either in Australia or Singapore) find that population growth is the easy way to future economic growth.
ReplyDeleteI personally feel that this path just leads to overcrowding, over-stressed population and eventually has to hit limits.
The much harder solution is to get the economic growth out of the existing population... or heaven forbid, have stagnant growth... Our resources would breath a big sigh of relief.
Australia is hitting limits on it's infrastructure and although externally it looks as though there is plenty of space for people, the major cities are becoming crowded, expensive and their infrastructure is crumbling. If Australia could grow it's second tier cities, it could grow substantially.
Learn from this quoted text:
ReplyDelete"Bigger isn't always better," said the ACF's Chuck Berger.
"More people means more roads, more urban sprawl, more dams, more power lines, more energy and water use, more pollution in our air and natural environment, and more pressure on our animals, plants, rivers, reefs and bush."
My comment:
More condos. means more inflated prices too! more diggings and more floods and jams etc...............
rex comments as follows,
ReplyDeleteI am very much against a high population like 5 million or more in Singapore.
It place too much stress on the small environment here. Transport, food, water, everything!
Today we read that PUB going to increase tremendously newWater plants. And desalination works.
All of us suffer we have to increasingly drink recycled longkang water, all because of xponential increase in population which is artificially created.
It is better to have higher quality of life than higher quantity of humans competing with each other in a small space like hours. The goverhment did a very very major mistake to increase our population artificially without giving the stakeholders (citizens) the chance to comment. Now it is too late, you cannot chase the aliens away, whether you vote or not vote for the ruling elites. very sad,
rex
I was at Bugis MRT station last Saturday afternoon. I thought I was at a Mumbai Railway Station. I was quite shocked. This is the problem with "excessive and aggressive" immigration policy. The Government refused to admit their mistake.
ReplyDeleteFL
France made a big mistake and is now paying for it. Legislation makes it worse.
ReplyDeleteLondon made a horrible mistake. It is now paying for it.Soon it will be renamed.
Cannot imagine our PM is for the idea of transplanting foreigners to supplement the population decline and turning a blind of what PAP has done for the past 50 years to cause it. Now our Orchard road is also overflowing with flood water, MRT packed like sardine....etc...what kind of life we are going to face in the future.
ReplyDeleteAustralia's ruling party answers to the voters every 4 years.
ReplyDeleteDoes your ruling party have to?
I interviewed some FTs(cleaners)from India at my condo. and guess what?.A few of them are eager to apply PR or even in the process of applying, and I said to myself.
ReplyDelete........Economic Migrants or the real FTs?
Where have all the Singaporeans Gone?
More Foreign Cheap Workers = Economic growth
ReplyDeleteEconomic growth = GDP growth
GDP growth = PAP assume Gd Govt
PAP assume Gd Govt = Gd Salary Govt
Gd Salary Govt = more unemployed PMET
More unemployed PMET = More Cheap Foreign workers.
Summary?
More Cheap Foreign Workers Yield high paying Govt Salary due to good GDP growth even though more Singaporeans PMET are unemployed.
If Foreign Workers falls ill, no problem, taxpayer can pay the bill. Luckily people like us, PMET, has no money to pay income tax.....
My friends who attended courses conducted by Singapore Institute of Retail Studies arranged by Work Development Agency was surprised to learn that PR and Singaporean paid same subsidize rate of only $15. The amount for Foreigner is more than $300. My question is why are PRs given the same subsidize. Singapore probably is the only country in the world that embrace PRs so preciously. Mr Tan, hope you can post this message.
ReplyDeleteI like give examples why I support foreigners or PRs working in Singapore (give me a chance and hear me out)!
ReplyDelete1. Foreign Engineers - More focus and more technical; rare skills as most locals very management-oriented and not hands-on. Both groups can be as hardworking and spent long hours in the workplace.
When skills are rare, salary gets higher!Locals may want to explore to learn reals skills than just talk and expect high pay. Locals also know the m.c. (medical certificate) tactics when some will conveniently be on M.c. when there is stock taking or audits, etc. HRs and boss have eyes too!
2. Foreign students
I mean the real students. Here to get better accreditation. These are the global brains and we need these committed groups to be interested in research and spent time. V committed. Local students too keen to make money and do the wrong work at the wrong time.
3. Foreign Help
My hourly local auntie charges me $12/hour for domestic help. Ask for $5 more for transport. Total cost approx $50 for 3-4hours; (actually leave within 2 hours as we did not see her when we came home early sometimes). Iron 7 shirts, do not work weekends, do not clean windows. Domestic maid- nothing to say, we should treat them better.
Why is there no ranking on the population density per square metre in the world cities? Singapore always ranked among the top in many surveys conducted by many prestigeous organisations.
ReplyDeleteWe should have such a survey and see where Singapore ranks.
How to reconcile the foreign worker syndrome:
ReplyDeleteA) accept it
B) avoid subsidising them
Since I left my job with a Temasek owned company.. I have not paid income tax.( cannot avoid GST leh )
Do free lance work and recieve cash payments. In fact claim tax relief from as many fronts as possible.. maid levies, insurance premiums,elderly care.. etc
This way, you will not feel so "grum"..
Accept it.. they are not going away... eben with a change of Gov