Monday, June 15, 2020

WOTC - Joe Biden's pick for vice president nominee

Wisdom of the Crowd: 32% of the respondents expect Joe Biden to pick Michelle Obama as his vice president nominee. 21% expect him to pick Elizabeth Warren.

https://tklcloud.com/Crowd2/chart.aspx?ID=1993

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

SOS (SAME OLD SHIT) is still better than NAJIB. ZERO CONSCIENCE.

Anonymous said...

Interesting theory on cold chain transmission.
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Now that there are 45 new local COVID-19 cases in Beijing, can someone explain whether this is going to affect the rest of the world?

Robin Daverman
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World traveler

Now that there are 45 new local COVID-19 cases in Beijing, can someone explain whether this is going to affect the rest of the world?

This is actually significant. The reason is that this may be proven a clear case of cold-chain food trade-disseminated contagion.

Before the 1st case was discovered Beijing on June 10, Beijing had gone through 56 days without a single case. Totally clear. So when the contact tracers went through with the first patient, and published the patient’s 14-day-prior itinerary, the reaction was that “no way, how could he have gotten it if he never left Beijing?”

The next day, two more cases were discovered. Food inspectors. The common factor among all 3 cases was that they’ve all been to Xinfadi, which is the biggest grocery wholesaler/retailer in Beijing. Wholesale before 7 am in the morning. Retail after 7 am. Prices published online everyday, usually somewhat cheaper than everywhere else, because they sell stuff by the case.

So the local CDC swamped the place on June 12, collected ~ 5,000 material samples, and tested ~ 2,000 people. 45 people tested positive, and the processing equipment for imported frozen salmon tested positive. The virus was isolated, sequenced, and ID’ed as the European variety. The top 3 salmon importers to China are Denmark, Norway, Chile.

Anonymous said...

Overnight, all Beijing grocery chains took imported salmon off the shelf. 9 neighborhood districts went into complete quarantine, local highways are cut off, and over 10,000 people are being tested and quarantined. All cold-chain food trade was suspended. All food distributors are temporarily closed for inspection and test. Of the six food wholesalers in Beijing, Xinfadi has 45 people tested positive, a second wholesaler had 1 person tested positive (who is also a close contact of one of the existing cases), the other 4 all tested negative.

You see, viruses can be killed at high temperature and preserved at low temperature. -20 degrees can perfectly preserve the virus for years. On normal surfaces, the virus can only survive for hours, or even days, but in cold freeze, you are talking years. In March, South Korea had a mysterious Covid-19 outbreak in their fishery department. In April Chile had a fishery outbreak. In May Ghana had a huge outbreak in their fish processing plant that accounted for over half of their total national count. A Fish-Factory Worker Infects 533 People With Covid-19 in Ghana The US just had its first major fishery outbreak. A Seattle fishing company has had more than 100 COVID-19 cases on its ships. They're heading to Alaska this summer. - Alaska Public Media Additionally, the US has a massive number of meat processing plants workers and food inspectors died from Covid-19. Fourth USDA Inspector Dies Amid Meat Plant Virus Outbreaks

In the Wuhan outbreak in late Dec - early Jan, the very first batch of infected patients were also from the local food wholesaler, the Huanan Seafood Market. The material samples collected at the site showed positive samples on food processing equipment but not on any of the live animals there. So now people have to seriously consider if cold-chain storage and transportation maybe the source of both outbreaks. What if there was never any problem with the live animals, but the problem is with the frozen food.

What I think is going to happen is that food safety will become a big issue, and food processing plants, especially those using cold-process, will be required to certify that their plants and their workers are virus free before they can sell their products to China again. A lot of other Asian countries will follow suit, because they all, like China, managed to contain the virus domestically so they will be very much on guard to imported cases. Real-time health monitoring of food workers will almost certainly become the new normal in Beijing. In the meantime, consumers need to step up their food safety practice too, i.e., wash hands after touching cold-stored food, cook food thoroughly, sterilize their utensils and cutting boards after each use, etc.

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